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While top representatives from each country...
were convening at the UN to discuss global peace-keeping and security,
despite the lack of any official recognition,
the self-appointed G's from around the world...
are convening for the peace-keeping and security of global youths,
hence the Non-Summit Meeting.
We shall begin the session.
I'm the Chairman of Non Summit Meeting, Jun Hyun-moo.
I'm Secretary General Yoo Se-yoon.
- I'm Chairman Sung Si-kyung. We are Junyoosung! - We are Junyoosung!
(Welcome representatives.)
We will cover each representative's issues and share diverse opinions.
We discuss all global issues. "Global Side Dishes Time, What Is So Important?"
Let's start from Guillaume, the Canadian representative.
A while ago, the former Prime Minister of Cuba...
Fidel Castro passed away.
(We will topple the pro-American government.)
(He was a revolutionary who led the Cuban Revolution to its success.)
(A dictator who had governed Cuba for 49 years)
(He introduced free education and healthcare during his regime.)
(He had purged his political opponents mercilessly.)
(A dictator who overthrew the dictator of his nation, Fidel Castro)
Justin Trudeau, the Canadian Prime Minister, called...
Fidel Castro as a legendary leader.
His statement overlooked Castro's dictatorship, and it has caused a controversy.
I'd like to know how you all think about this.
I lay this issue to the Non Summit Meeting.
Fidel Castro died at the age of 90. He lived a long life.
While governing Cuba for 49 years,
he controlled media and purged his political opponents.
He was described as an undemocratic politician and brutal dictator.
The Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau...
praised Fidel Castro as a legendary leader.
He expressed his condolences, but his statement has caused a controversy.
("I hope Cuban people will live in the freedom...")
("after the death of their brutal leader.")
("The Chinese people have lost a good and true comrade,")
("but Castro will live forever.")
("He is a historical figure but placed Cuba...")
("under a system of political repression for decades.")
When dictators like Fidel Castro die, do you think it's appropriate...
for the leaders of other countries to offer their condolences?
Or do you think it's not appropriate?
Press the button if you think they should offer their condolences.
Press in 1, 2, 3.
(6 said it's appropriate while 5 said it's not.)
Mark said it's appropriate.
(6 said it's appropriate while 5 said it's not.)
I think they should offer their condolences.
But I think Mr. Trudeau crossed the line this time.
When you make a statement regarding the death of a dictator,
you should never praise the person.
You have to pay your condolences to the people of that country.
("At this time of Fidel Castro's passing,")
("we extend a hand of friendship to the Cuban people.")
Actually, Castro had caused a lot of damage to the US.
- Also... - The US has caused a lot of damage to Cuba.
- No. - America has caused a lot of damage to Cuba.
But it's not the people's fault.
To give an extreme example,
let's say Lucky's father is a bad guy.
If his father passes away,
I will pay my condolences since he's my friend.
- You think it's courtesy. - But it's not a private matter.
- It's a country's national stance. - That's right.
The President is the face of his people.
So leaders have to reflect their national stance based on the opinions of people.
I think leaders...
shouldn't promote hatred.
They shouldn't express their condolences...
to praise the dictatorship that took place in the country.
But instead, they should offer condolences...
for that person's death as a sign of good manners.
Fidel Castro had wielded political influence in Cuba and abroad.
We acknowledge that fact.
But the most important thing...
is the fact that he was a dictator.
- That's right. - He also impeded the development of Cuba.
If you take these facts into account,
I don't think we should offer our condolences for his death.
If you compare him with Saddam Hussein...
or Gaddafi, he was very similar to them.
- But... - If you think about the people...
Let me ask you a question.
When the North Korean Leader Kim Jong-Il died,
did you think we should pay our condolences?
- Tell me. - Let me say this. Unlike Cuba,
there were hardly any exchanges between North Korea and other countries.
Cuba's dictator died.
We can never predict where the country is heading in terms of the politics.
We can't predict it. To keep a good relationship with them,
we have to offer our condolences. I think it's really important.
We don't have to express our condolences...
to keep a good relationship with them.
Even if they don't pay their condolences, the diplomatic ties will still be kept.
- What I'm saying is... - Wait a minute.
When the leader expresses his condolences,
the statements made will change the history.
Leaders criticize dictators for their wrongdoings before they die.
But when they die, the historical evaluations...
on the dictator will be watered down by those statements.
A Pakistani politician has said something similar to what Mr. Trudeau said.
He said, "Castro is a hero who saved Cuba."
After a few years, historical evaluations on him might change.
Look at Germany. Historical evaluations can't be changed.
No matter how much good deeds he has done, a dictator will always be a dictator.
We're talking about dictators now. This is what I think.
The Cuban people will decide whether he was a dictator or not.
We're not in a position to decide.
- How will they decide? - I disagree.
A dictator is the worst leader you can have.
Even if that person is considered as a good dictator, he's still the worst leader.
- Well... - Guillaume's step mother is from Cuba.
My step mother is from Cuba.
She went to college in Cuba,
but she worked in a factory and got paid less than 20 dollars a month.
In Cuba, military personnel earn the highest salary.
Then there are white-collar workers.
The rest of them work at factories.
The wages they get are very low.
To make a better living...
and be rich, you have to be a politician.
- The gap between the rich and poor is huge. - It's serious.
The gap between the rich and poor exists in any country.
You can't call them dictators...
based on one thing.
Xinlin is saying it's an intervention in the internal affairs of another country.
I agree with Xinlin to some extent.
There are many politicians...
- who weren't dictators but impeded the development of their country. - Yes.
I also think the Cuban people have to decide...
whether Castro had contributed in developing the country or not.
Some people like him,
and some people don't.
So I think leaders have to pay their condolences.
I can't trust the judgment of Cuban people.
If you ask North Koreans if they like Kim Jong-un,
- They like him. - they'll say they like him.
Cubans will think the same since it's a communist country.
I don't think you can entirely trust...
the judgment of Cuban people.
Alex, didn't you say it's appropriate for leaders to pay condolences?
Not paying condolences could worsen the already chilly relationship...
between the two countries.
Actually, to maintain neutrality,
Switzerland doesn't attend the funerals of leaders from other countries.
You guys are doing nothing just to maintain neutrality.
- Switzerland is doing nothing. - It's a neutral country.
There was a special relationship between Cuba and Switzerland.
To have a dialogue with the US, the Cuban government...
sent their messages through Switzerland.
- Actually... - In Cuba, Switzerland represented the US.
And in the States, Switzerland represented Cuba.
It's like a son who's in the middle of his parents' fight.
- Moms say, "Tell your dad to have dinner." - It's the same for North Korea.
- That's right. - We don't have our embassy in North Korea.
- We don't. - They send messages through Switzerland.
If there are matters regarding North Korea, we send our message...
through Switzerland since they have their embassy in North Korea.
Whether they're great leaders or dictators,
many countries pursue projects to commemorate their former leaders.
They spend a lot of national budget on these projects.
If they committed themselves to developing the country,
they deserve to be commemorated.
But sometimes...
Sometimes we can't help but think, "Why are they doing that?"
Do you think projects to commemorate their former leaders are budget waste?
Or do you think it's an honorable treatment?
Raise your hand if you think it's a waste of budget. In 1, 2, 3.
Waste of budget.
(7 said it's a waste while 4 said they need to do it.)
If you remember all the names of the roads and airports in India,
it's equivalent to remembering half of India's history. It's very serious.
Names of roads are often named after Kings.
Even the names of airports are named after politicians.
They can keep using the name, but they often change the name, too.
I think it's a waste of national budget.
Many facilities or libraries are named after their national leaders,
but maybe people don't need those libraries.
Maybe they don't need those libraries.
Commemoration projects cost a lot of money,
and it's a waste of money.
I'm from Germany. Perhaps you all know how much emphasis we put on the history.
Whether we build libraries or airports,
history is still very important.
To learn the history of our country,
we often name our libraries after great leaders.
I hope Germans won't forget these people.
- I see. - For these people,
commemoration projects...
- It will cost a lot of money. - Wait.
Naming a facility after a person's name doesn't cost anything.
Then why don't you pick a date...
and designate that day to commemorate the person?
- Right. - That doesn't cost a thing.
I think making a statue of the person...
- isn't a waste of budget at all. - I agree.
If they are revolutionary figures, we have to remember them.
We also have to commemorate them.
I think we need to remember politicians since history is important,
but I don't think we need to commemorate them.
- Politicians are not actually heroes. - It's very well said.
- He's a poet. - They are not heroes.
They're not heroes. They're not the father of their country.
They're just people who work for the citizens.
Tax payer's money should be used for the citizens,
not for the politicians.
We should try to commemorate scientists or artists rather than politicians.
I'm sorry. There's one thing I want to ask.
Do you think Nobel Prize should be disappeared then? Some people don't like...
- Wait a second. - That's not what we said.
Can't we commemorate Nobel Peace Prize winners?
- They use tax payer's money for these projects. - Nobel Prize doesn't use my tax.
- It's also... - Politicians are...
(Wait a second.)
(A 3D discussion is taking place right before their eyes.)
You think they're wasting tax payer's money,
but let me put it this way.
Money comes in when tourists come to visit, right?
For example, you have the King Sejong statue and the Kyobo building.
Would foreigners take photos in front of the statue or the Kyobo building?
They would take in front of the statue, right? Why? Because this has history.
This is a little different.
- Also the tourists... - So, are you saying it becomes a landmark?
Continuing from that point, what Alberto is trying to say is that...
history and commemorations are mixed in together.
- You can't think of it as separate things. - You can't separate it.
If I were to take the time to explain it, each of our presidents opens a library.
People who go to the George W. Bush Presidential Library and Museum...
don't go there because they like him.
People go there...
and look at Bush's archives. They also look at Bush's memos.
Even though they dislike him, they need to know.
This is not a waste of taxes in the US because...
each president...
builds the foundation,
and those who want to donate the money donate it.
People who dislike him don't have to donate any money.
They build the library with that money.
- There's no problem with that. - That sounds nice.
I only have a problem with the taxes.
- You have a problem with using government taxes. - Taxes.
My dad works hard, and he pays his taxes.
I don't know why we have to use that money to make a presidential statue.
I think there is a bigger problem than just that.
For example in Japan, we don't have enough kindergartens.
Wouldn't it be better to build a kindergarten on that spot?
- A small one. - In today's world,
when you make a homepage,
- you can see it and discuss it. - Hold on.
Can't you build a kindergarten and put the President's name on it?
- Shinzo Abe Kindergarten. - Shinzo Abe Kindergarten.
Shinzo Abe Kindergarten.
Welcome to Shinzo Abe Kindergarten.
It's fine if you donate money or discuss it online.
If you were to visit New Delhi, all the former homes of deceased Prime Ministers...
have become memorial homes.
It's regrettable that the government maintains and funds all that land for that use.
(If donations could be used for the people...)
What kinds of buildings in your country...
have names of Prime Ministers or leaders on it?
- This was actually a very controversial issue. - Okay.
Washington, D.C. is our capital, right?
The airport was just called...
Washington National Airport.
President Reagan was popular so they changed the name in 1998.
They changed it to Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.
What's very embarrassing about this is that our publicly elected officials...
have no choice but to use this airport.
Reagan is a Republican, right?
- Poor Democrats. - The Democrats also have to use the airport as well, right?
They have no choice but to fly into Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport.
They feel embarrassed about that, so they keep petitioning to change it.
In France, we have the Charles de Gaulle Airport.
After they built it, there was a bit of a deliberation about what to call it.
In France, whenever we we're not sure, we put on Charles de Gaulle.
We just pick that name.
- It doesn't become a controversy. - No, it doesn't.
Everyone in France loves him. He's a hero.
He helped seize France back.
We do use names of leaders for airports a lot.
In Toronto, the international airport is called...
the Toronto Pearson International Airport.
It is named after Prime Minister Lester B. Pearson, who won the Nobel Peace Prize.
In Italy all the roads and streets...
have names on them.
One of the former mayors of Milan, Letizia Moratti...
suggested that they name a street after Bettino Craxi.
He was the leader of the Socialist party for 40 years and was also a Prime Minister.
That part is fine, but the problem is in 1993,
when the corruption scandal erupted,
Craxi was also put under investigation.
He fled to Tunisia.
- He didn't want to go to jail. - He fled to Tunisia.
He fled to Tunisia so this became a controversy.
How can you name a street after him?
"If you call it Bettino Craxi street,"
"then you have to put an explanation below it."
"Politician and fugitive."
"Judged guilty."
They said you have to add all that.
In Switzerland, we have a mountain,
and this mountain is named after a scientist who studies glaciers.
However, this scientist was a racist. Is that how you say it?
- Racist. - Yes, he was a racist.
So, a lot of people wanted to change the name of the mountain.
- I see. - I see.
Fidel Castro said, "History will absolve me."
- We should wait and see to how history remembers Castro. - Right.
(How will history remember Fidel Castro?)
We'll examine "What Is So Important" next week as well.
Okay.
(Non Summit Meeting)
- Shall we invite in today's Korean representative? - Okay.
These two people have filmed historical, contemporary and tragedy shows.
He's the actor who played the real Bi-dam, Kim Nam-Gil.
And the Queen of acting, Moon Jeong-hee is here.
(The 128th Korean representatives are Kim Nam-Gil and Moon Jeong-hee.)
Welcome.
(Moon Jeong-hee and Kim Nam-Gil)
(Welcome)
Please take a seat.
(Everyone takes a seat.)
All right.
- You have to introduce yourself to them. - I see.
They're not Korean.
I'm an actress.
I've seen you on TV many times. I'm star-struck to see you all in person.
Hello. I'm Korea's number one actor, Kim Nam-Gil.
(Ambitious)
- Have you seen our show before? - Yes.
- Yes. - I've been a fan of this show since season one.
- Really? - Yes, I really enjoy watching the show.
I had also worked with Si-kyung on a drama before.
- Yes. - Were you in a drama?
- He was an actor? - Don't tell them about embarrassing things like that.
- All right. - Go search for it.
(Nam-Gil had a good relationship with Si-kyung?)
All right. How did the two of you end up coming here together?
- I am really looking forward to the movie. - Me, too.
- "Pandora". - Thank you.
Could you say that a bit louder?
"Pandora". Are you satisfied?
(Are you satisfied?)
Pandora's box is a mythological tale, right?
We do have a nuclear power plant in Korea.
There have been accidents with nuclear power plants in each country, right?
The Chernobyl disaster as well as Fukushima nuclear disaster.
The movie delves into the lives of ordinary people...
who have survived the initial disaster and how they manage to cope with it.
- I can't wait to see the film. - Okay.
We'll now hear the issue brought forth from the two Korean representatives.
When Pandora's box opened, the disaster happens.
And as I acted, I started to have this thought,
I'm curious to open what should remain closed.
Am I abnormal?
This is interesting.
Do you think we conceal a lot of taboo topics in our culture?
Yes, I think we do.
My occupation is an actress,
so when I was just starting off and people asked me for my opinions,
it was very difficult for me to give my opinion.
"Be honest and tell us your opinion."
- It's frightening. - When a superior says that.
The person is telling you to stay silent.
"Be honest and tell us." Then you can't say anything.
"You should have said something. Here, let me pour you a drink."
Nam-Gil, how do you feel about this topic?
I don't know about other countries, but in Korea, we don't have a fourth floor.
It's written as F.
Yes, it's written as F. I only recently learned about this,
but a fascinating tidbit is that Incheon International Airport...
doesn't have a gate 4 or gate 44.
- Is that so? - I didn't know that.
- Is that really true? - Yes, I only found out recently.
(Incheon International Airport doesn't have a gate 4, 13 or 44.)
(They have removed numbers that are considered unlucky in the West and East.)
What if one day, I look at my ticket and it says gate four?
- Where is this trip taking us? - That's true.
- Is that true? - Yes, if you think about taboos in our culture,
we never put the spoon vertical in a bowl of rice.
- Right, we're not allowed to put it in vertically. - In the past,
people said, "you shouldn't step on the threshold."
"If you do, the elderly people will suffer pain."
- We do have cultural taboos. - My grandmother use to say phrases like that a lot.
- "Don't step on the threshold." - Right.
- "Don't cut your nails at night." - Right.
- Yes. - The rat will eat it and turn into you.
We still have that in the back of our minds, so we do our best not to step on it.
We try not to.
Even if we want to cut our nails, we don't because it's late.
- We cut it the next day. - Yes.
You sound like a very old person.
I thought you were older than me.
Let's hear about what our representatives think about Pandora's box.
"Pandora's box can lead towards a good or bad situation."
"If it was up to me, I wouldn't open it."
- You don't know if it will be a good thing or bad thing. - Right.
Whether it ends well or badly.
In 1, 2, 3. Please vote.
It's yes or no.
(It's 7 for yes and 6 for no.)
Oogi, you're bold. You would open it.
Oogi is actually very greedy.
He's a man filled with greed.
- He's filled with greed. - He's filled to the brim with greed.
You'll burn your tongue.
I'd be curious to know what it is filled with.
Whichever direction it leads to,
I'd hate that feeling of not knowing more.
I'd keep regretting it if I didn't open it.
- You'd still open it even though you might regret it later? - Yes.
Even if it leads to something bad,
I don't feel that I'd have that much to lose.
You have nothing to lose.
It can't get worse than this.
- He's very negative. - He can't go any lower.
It might be true.
(The King of negativity)
I don't have that much to lose.
If I open it now, I think I could change my life around.
If I was living like Mark, I wouldn't open it.
- True. - Actually...
Rich people should refrain from opening it.
The rich man from Switzerland wouldn't open it.
I knew you would say that.
- He's rich! - He has a lot to lose.
So the people who think they are rich didn't press the button.
- This is... - I don't really mind.
Even if some calamity was to happen by opening it,
you have to be able to overcome it and turn it into good fortune.
- It could be an opportunity. - But it might not be as well.
- It's a twist. - The probability of this is 50 to 50.
I'd do it. It's probably because I'm greedy. I often do buy lottery tickets.
- Whether it turns out badly... - Lottery tickets...
don't have a rule where you have to pay the winning amount.
- But... - You can't die from a lottery ticket.
You only have positive thoughts.
I wouldn't open it because I am a positive person.
There was the philosopher, Baruch Spinoza.
According to him, the world we live in...
is the most ideal form within the limits of possibility.
I agree.
There will always be problems and shortcomings,
so it's better to be content with what we have now.
Alberto talked about Spinoza,
but didn't he die 500 years ago?
(He died in 1677.)
He didn't die from picking a bad card.
Since then, mankind has opened up so many Pandora's boxes.
So many boxes have been opened.
- As a result, a lot of damage has been done to earth. - That's not true.
In the pursuit of the good,
I believe these Pandora's boxes need to be continuously discovered.
Also, there's a 50 to 50 percent chance.
It's like a very risky investment.
Mark can attest to this as a professional investor.
There's always the chance of failure.
Life is a risky investment.
- It's so dangerous. - People make investments based on information.
Before investing in stocks, people research and study their future investments.
If you open a box,
and your business goes under...
- Then someone else can take it. - Or, your close friends end up dying.
- Well... - What would you do then?
- If I get to replace Donald Trump with another president, then it's better.
I'm just saying you could end up with an even worse president. You never know.
I agree with Alberto.
What if opening the box leads to an even worse situation?
I think it's good to think about things like this to the extreme.
There's a 99 percent chance of a good outcome,
and a one percent chance of a lethal one.
In such very extreme scenarios, I still wouldn't open the box...
because I fear the one percent chance of a deadly result.
It's not worth the gamble.
It looks like Mark, Guillaume, and Alberto,
have become more fearful with age.
Hold on. I'm sorry.
- Is Alberto older than you? - Of course.
(Is Alberto older than you?)
He's comparatively a baby.
I'm sorry, but I was being prejudiced.
You didn't know?
It's hard to tell.
I think they've become more fearful.
With all the problems occurring all over the world,
I don't understand how people can think the current state of the world is okay.
I believe there are many things we need to learn from bad outcomes.
It's another kind of experience.
A positive result would be great,
but even a negative one can be a learning experience.
I like risk and challenges,
but you're right. The old guy crew is more cautious.
The old guy crew?
I think it comes from a kind of wisdom.
- Old guy wisdom. - A 50 to 50 chance is high risk.
- I said this earlier. - That's true.
Avoiding such risks isn't being fearful. It's being responsible.
A 50 to 50 chance is too dangerous.
To add to that, my current situation is very good.
My parents are healthy. I'm studying what I want, and I do television shows.
Wanting things to get better would be a kind of greed.
I won't be able to endure the situation getting any worse.
Also, if you all imagine the worst possible scenario,
who would open a box that could risk our health?
- That's right. - Our current situation is the most ideal.
There are other factors, however.
You could become a wealthy man.
It could get better in so many other ways.
Think about the possibility of all diseases being eradicated.
Losing your health is the worst.
Imagine there are no diseases.
What if the opposite happens?
Imagine how great it would be if there were no diseases.
Even if there are no diseases...
- Shouldn't you do something to mediate? - If that happens...
This happens all the time.
There will still be sick people.
I would also open the box.
Rather than to regret not opening it,
it would be better to open the box even if it leads to regret.
It's based on my personal experience. When I was young, my parents told me...
never to open their bedroom door.
- You can't do that. - That's tricky.
Is that Pandora's room?
Then one day,
I decided to open it.
(What did he see?)
(Well...)
- What do you mean? - Did you say hello?
Were they in the room?
All three of us screamed at the same time.
You screamed all at once?
- All three of you? - Yes.
Christian, did your parents...
lock their room after that?
Did they lock the doors after that?
I don't even know. I never opened their door again after that.
I wasn't even curious after that.
You still say you want to open the box?
Yes, that's true.
I did open it. If I hadn't opened it,
I'd have been curious about it for a long time.
"What are they doing in there?"
Moon Jeong-hee, you chose to open.
- Yes. - I thought you'd be more careful.
It's the same with children.
I would tell my niece, "Don't touch this."
I would tell her she can't do something. It's better not to tell her because...
she would always do it when it's forbidden.
- That's true. - The same goes for dogs.
(Even dogs do the same.)
If you tell them "no", they do it staring at the owner.
Maybe it's instinctual.
- It could be. - I guess.
- Man ultimately plucks the fruit from the tree. - That's right.
I pressed the button because no matter how I try,
I don't think it would be something I'd have control over.
- I want to control that urge. - I see.
Throughout the talk, I pondered about whether...
I should open it or not. I've come to the conclusion...
that even if we don't open Pandora's box, there are already...
many ills and problems that we have to carry...
in this world.
Maybe it's already been opened.
That's right.
Because we've already opened it, I don't want to know.
- How old are you? - I'm 37 years old.
You seem really mature.
(He's much wiser for his age.)
Before I came on the show,
I did get some advice from my grandmother.
Really?
This is the topic of today's show.
"I'm curious to open what should remain closed. Am I abnormal?"
Let's begin the Non Summit Meeting.
We'll be talking about various taboos around the world.
What kinds of taboo continue to exist in various cultures?
In Germany, it's very hard to see two flags stand so close to each other.
There would be one here and another one over there.
It's really hard to find.
- I see. - Especially after the Second World War,
we weren't allowed to show pride for our country.
The flag represents a one's love for country.
That's why it's so hard to find German flags...
apart from government buildings.
Instead of the national flag, it's more common to see regional flags.
They don't raise their flags in front of their homes like they do in the US.
There's a similar taboo regarding the national flag.
- Why? - The reason is...
very similar. Ever since the Second World War,
they know how patriotism...
- can be so damaging. - I see.
- They know of its dangers. - That's why it's become a kind of taboo.
It's known as ultranationalism.
- I just got goosebumps. - However,
after the Bataclan terror attack,
it's slightly changed.
Many people have begun...
to post the flag on Facebook.
The flag has come to represent more a sense of national recognition...
rather than the extreme right.
- It must have been a symbol of the extreme right. - That's right.
This isn't the case in Britain with so many Union Jacks everywhere.
- They even have Union Jack sofas. - That's true.
In Britain, they're everywhere.
My luggage carrier is the British flag.
It's so pretty.
It is a really nice design.
The British flag is really nice.
In India, there are a lot of arranged marriages.
It's not legally prohibited, but it's very hard...
for people of different castes to marry.
It's not as bad as it was before.
It's even more difficult for Hindus and Muslims to marry.
I have a very close friend in Delhi.
He's Hindu and married a Muslim woman,
but they still haven't met each other's parents for 10 years.
In Korea, it was taboo for people of the same surname and family origin in Korea.
That was true in the past.
In Japan, there's a marital taboo,
where a divorced woman...
- cannot remarry within six months after the divorce. - Is that only for the woman?
- Yes. - The man can marry right away?
That's because when a woman is pregnant,
- it must be clear who the child's father is. - Still, that's strange.
That was the reason behind it.
However, that term was reduced to 100 days this year.
Women can't remarry within 100 days after a divorce?
No. It was a bit shocking.
We've been talking about flags and marriages,
but in Mexico, there's a taboo against revealing too much leg.
A taboo against legs?
- You're not allowed to reveal legs? - It's kind of like the taboo...
against revealing too much cleavage in Korea.
The legs are taboo in Mexico.
- The legs? - Yes.
- Why? - There's even a law in Mexico that banned miniskirts.
The reason behind it is even funnier.
They said it's to reduce the birth rate.
It's to reduce the birth rate?
Showing legs can stimulate men and so on...
That's what it ultimately leads to.
There was a rule against miniskirts in Korea as well.
- There was. - There you go again with talk of the past.
That was so long ago.
That's when they used to measure the ends of women's skirts with a ruler.
It had to be less than 40cm.
If you look at traditional Indian clothes, the legs are all hidden,
but the belly is fully exposed.
- That's true. - In Korea, the belly is very provocative,
but to us, legs are so much more provocative than the midriff.
In Canada, it's forbidden for a man to talk to a woman as if he's instructing her.
It's called "mansplaining", combining "man" and "explain".
It's when men try to explain things to women.
For example, when men talk about the economy, stocks, or cars,
- they speak differently from... - As if they're teaching...
when they're talking with other men.
It's really frowned upon, especially for government officials and judges.
Three years ago, a judge "mansplained" to...
a sexual assault victim.
How did he do it?
He asked her why she didn't close her legs when she was being assaulted.
He said sexual intercourse isn't necessarily a bad thing.
The judge said that?
- He asked her this. - The judge did?
Yes. After the lawsuit, the woman...
said she wanted to commit suicide.
I felt pretty belittled, ashamed of myself.
There's "mansplaining" in the US as well.
Say we're in a meeting and a female employee, like Jeong-hee,
made a comment. A male would then try to explain her words by saying,
"What Jeong-hee was trying to say is..."
It's a way of adding his own words to a woman's comment.
It's not received well.
It would be annoying for men, as well.
If someone is trying to say something...
and I say for example, "What Se-yoon is trying to say here is..."
I'll say it myself.
It's really annoying.
I know how to explain it more logically than you. Stay put.
Well, what Jun Hyun-moo is trying to say is...
- Are you going to explain my words as well? - I'll say it.
("Mansplaining" on top of "mansplaining")
Italians are also very sensitive to hate speech.
We speak very freely,
but hate speech against Jews, women, and homosexuals...
is strictly forbidden. There's also a lot of regional divisions,
so discriminating against people from other regions is also restricted.
Also, pro-fascist talk is strongly derided.
- Fascism. - That's why many public figures and celebrities face a lot of problems.
They get in trouble if they say even the slightest insensitive comment.
What is there in Korea?
- In Korea, - It's...
- it's endless. - Are you talking about the present?
Now.
(This very moment!)
Right now.
Are you making comment on our current situation?
It's taboo to talk about things that are taboo.
It's very hard to talk about issues in Korea.
- That's right. - It's a taboo to talk about taboos being a taboo to talk about.
- That's right. - Taboo on top of taboo.
Talking about even that is taboo.
All of this is taboo.
Even admitting this is taboo.
The same action may have different meanings in different countries.
That's why we prepared,
"Taboos from around the World. What is forbidden?"
(Taboos from around the World, What is Forbidden?)
- What is forbidden? - When a Chinese person invites you to his home,
- it's forbidden to act without sense. - How should one act?
For example, if I'm the host and I want my guest to leave,
I would raise my tea cup and say, "Let's drink."
This means I want the guest to leave.
It doesn't mean to drink tea?
Do you have to raise the saucer as well?
- Yes. - Then, do you drink before you leave,
or do you put it down and leave?
You have to politely refuse and leave.
- You'd say, "No thank you for the tea." - Yes.
What if you ask for another cup?
(Laughter)
What if it's really good tea?
Also, if you're staying at a Chinese person's house for a few days,
and the host suddenly asks if you want some noodles,
that means you should leave.
Oh, that smells good. What is that?
It's noodles?
(Despair)
- I wanted to stay longer. - What if you bring a bowl...
to your sleeping guest as a late-night snack?
Excuse me, here you go.
(It's time for us to part.)
What a good actor.
(Remember tea and noodles when in China.)
In Pakistan,
putting your thumb up like this...
means you want to fight.
Like this.
It means you want to fight.
Also, the "okay" sign...
- means the eye of the devil. - Really?
Yes.
- This is the eye of the devil? - Also, if you wink at someone,
it means you want to sleep with them.
That's too much.
- It's a sexual innuendo. - Doing this?
Yes. Winking like this.
Is there anything in between?
If you wink at the wrong place at the wrong time,
there's nothing more embarrassing than that.
It's harmless to wink at children.
- Winking at children? - Right.
Raise your hand if you've winked at a woman.
In 1, 2, 3.
(Everyone raises their hand.)
See, I thought you said you only wink at children.
I also wink at my friends.
There's the often used phrase in Korea, "Okay, okay, okay".
This is not allowed.
You can say it once.
However, if you say it three times,
it means, "I got it, so shut up."
- I see. - That's true.
(It's similar in Korea.)
It's like, "Yes, yes, yes."
There's something similar in Germany.
If we say, "Ya, ya, ya" in Germany...
"Ya" means "yes".
Saying it three times means "kiss my butt".
(I see.)
- In Japan, we can't say "hai" twice. - "Hai"?
If we say it twice, it means we're bored.
- It's like, "All right, all right." - "I got it."
- All right, all right. - But you say "so" four times.
Yes. "So, so, so, so."
You have to say it at least four times.
(Agreeing with someone is not limited.)
"Is that right? So, so, so, so."
There are two things in Mexico.
It's a very important action. When we shake hands,
you don't want to keep it short like this.
You want to hold the person's hand like this and shake for over 30 seconds.
Shake for over 30 seconds.
You want to keep shaking.
The longer, the better.
You want to time the shake.
I have to go soon.
I have to go.
Okay, okay, okay.
You can't say okay three times.
That's right!
I should have said it twice.
This is so hard.
If the shake is too short,
it means that you don't trust the person you're shaking hands with.
However, there's something more important than the handshake.
When you go to Mexico, you never want to say "no".
- Why not? - Don't say no.
"No" is the same thing as cursing someone.
- No? - What do you say when you don't want to do something?
If you need to say no,
Mexicans say "yes" instead.
(That's absurd.)
It's true. We don't say no.
Say you're in a store,
and the owner asks if you want to buy something.
However, you're not interested in buying it.
Then, you'd want to pretend you're interested and give them an excuse.
You can say, "I have to go to the nearest ATM machine."
You'd say ,"What time do you close?"
It's a way of being nice.
Is it culturally condoned to beat around the bush?
There's a similar culture in Japan.
In Japan, for example,
if you ask whether the train station is to the right,
instead of saying no, they say, "You could do that, but turning left is better."
(Oogi nods in agreement.)
They're quite nice in Japan as well.
There's a cliff if you go to the right, but...
If you're not planning to fall off the cliff...
If you don't have a flying suit...
- If you don't have a flying suit, go that way. - I respect your opinion, but...
I wonder why such a nice country did that.
You're making Oogi upset.
He's feeling uncomfortable.
(Oogi is feeling uncomfortable.)
Oogi prepared a ranking of 10 of the most taboo issues...
the Japanese want to tell foreigners.
There are a lot of things foreigners need to be careful of when traveling to Japan.
A list of them was recently announced.
One was not to speak in a loud voice.
You can't speak in a loud voice. Another one is when you're at hot springs,
you must take a shower before entering the water.
- Don't enter the spring right away. - Yes.
Make public displays of affection.
- You mean don't? - Yes. Don't.
Are you trying to say your personal preference?
(We see what it is you want, Oogi.)
(Embarrassed)
Your cheeks are about to burst.
We don't want to hear about your fantasies, Oogi.
- Don't make public displays of affection. - The next one is really important.
Do not eat when riding the subway.
When riding a subway packed with people, do not wear a backpack on your back.
- Why not? - You want to carry it in front of you or put it down.
I see.
- That's good. - Aren't the Japanese surprised when they go to Europe?
In Italy, we show public displays of affection and eat in subways.
They do all that wearing backpacks.
It must be a cultural shock.
When I first came to Korea, I was so shocked.
People were on the phone, wearing their backpacks, and doing all that.
You even fold newspapers like this when reading on the subway.
That's right. That's how we read on the train.
(Where was I reading?)
I know what that is.
- I always read the paper like that. - Right?
- Yes. - In Germany, even between really close friends,
it's culturally forbidden to talk about money.
"I make this much. How much do you make?"
Questions like that are taboo no matter how close.
Germans don't even talk about that between family members.
The same goes for my friends' parents.
If they both work,
they don't talk about money...
- and especially their salaries. - They don't have joint bank accounts?
There's a way around that.
If only one of the couple works, the salary is revealed.
However, if they both work, they may talk about how much they'll spend,
but they don't talk about how much money they have left.
Even if they know how much of the salary remains,
they don't talk about how much money has been spent or saved.
- Really? - They don't talk about it.
In school, kids don't even talk about how much allowance they get.
They don't talk about that, either.
Money is a very sensitive topic to talk about.
- Let's vote on the topic of discussing about money. - Let's vote.
- Okay. - Asking about money between family or prospective spouses...
should be allowed. Raise your hand for yes. In 1, 2, 3.
That includes prospective spouses.
Most of you voted yes.
It's similar in America as it is in Germany.
We don't talk about money.
We don't even talk about it between family.
I used to ask my dad about his salary when I was young,
but he never told me.
"I'll never tell."
However, my father asks me how much I make now,
and I never tell him because...
it causes a lot of pressure.
You're worried he'll be too shocked?
He might find out how wealthy you are.
If I tell my father how much I make,
he might get nosy about how I manage my money...
or start to worry about how I should invest it.
They could just ask out of curiosity, can't they?
It's not that.
Fathers might ask out of concern, but they could also ask out of curiosity.
He could just be curious.
That's exactly why it's not allowed.
It could be the starting point of meddling into how you should spend your money.
That's not good.
Then, he could start asking you about where to invest.
- It always leads to that. - On top of that, Germans don't like...
using the salary to build one's pride...
and boast about one's self.
That's why the moment we talk about money,
it could sound like gloating if the salary is impressive.
On the other hand, it might look pitiful if the salary is low.
There's a similar taboo in France.
There's a social taboo against talking about money.
This is what I don't understand.
You shouldn't be talking about money with people you don't really know that well.
You could talk about this with your family or close friends.
- You could talk about this with them. - The intention is important.
As you said before, whether it's because you want to brag or you want pity,
if they know how much I make, it comforts the person in front of you, right?
We are a culture where parents don't give financial support, right?
When you get paid less then they'd expect,
they might think, "My son is getting paid less than I thought."
They don't think too much about it.
Why do they ask if they're not going to help?
- From the parent's perspective, - But...
- I was curious. - For us,
it's different because parents do get involved in their children's affairs.
The children also do return the favor by caring for them later on.
But in Europe, once you leave the house,
- you live separate lives. - Dad lives his own life.
Dad lives his own life, and their financial life doesn't have drastic changes.
That's why this is probably possible.
There are times when I can't stop my parents from worrying, right?
My parents would worry when I'm not making enough.
This does happen to me, but what can I tell my mom?
"I'm fine. Don't worry about me."
- "I'm doing well. Don't worry." - Right.
I don't want to receive any financial aid from my parents.
- You'd worry them. - But, that would make them worry.
- If you don't tell them... - But...
In our culture, we don't tell our parents, so they don't worry about that.
When I'm not okay, I tell them.
Even if you don't tell them, your friends and family will know.
You can't hide those things.
I can hide it pretty well.
He says he can hide it pretty well.
Right, you don't have to say it.
I think when families don't talk about money,
then they don't feel any warmth for each other.
- I think it's normal to ask if there is any problems. - Right.
You could say, "Dad, could you be able to lend me some money?"
I also think the married couples need to be open with each other for a happy life.
It doesn't matter when you are financially okay.
But when you're not, it's a problem.
If you are about to get married,
then you have a responsibility.
You have to discuss how the two of you are going to raise the child.
- If you don't, how is it going to work? - Right.
What do you think about this?
Well, for us,
it is something that we are curious about.
- He'd ask "How much do you get paid for this film?" - The actor's fee.
That's what you're most curious about, right?
I'd actually like to know, too.
- Is that so? - Yes.
Even among celebrities, it is a taboo to ask each other that.
- It could be considered taboo. - I don't know how much Hyun-moo gets paid for this.
(What?)
- I'm curious. - Do you want me to tell you?
Tell us.
(I don't mind.)
He actually does a lot of programs for a very cheap price.
It could be better if you do say it.
- We'd just guess. - Don't say it.
- Right. - "He gets paid this much."
- We normally don't tell people how much we make. - Right.
My husband and I...
have shared expenses, right?
- Apart from that, I don't know. - He doesn't tell you?
No. But if there is something that he wants to buy,
like a car or a bike,
he can ask me for my opinions, but I can't stop him.
So if your husband wants to buy it...
- and needs money, does he ask you for it? - "It's the family's car."
"Give me some money. I'm not going to be using it alone."
I wouldn't live with a man who would talk like that.
I see.
(You have to be humble when you borrow money.)
You have to be polite.
I haven't gotten married yet. I give all the money I earn to my mom.
I know basically how my money is being run.
However, I don't exactly know where it's being spent.
- Once, my mother is... - Did you ask for a statement of expenses?
Yes. I'm sure I earned a lot of money.
I've been earning a lot and making a lot of money as well.
She told me that she doesn't have any money.
She doesn't have money, and she puts pressure on me with those. She'd say,
"Don't you think you should work again? Isn't it time to do another drama?"
I said that to her once, and I'm not exaggerating about this.
She brought 40 to 50 pages of A4.
It was a record of when the money came in and where it was spent on.
- She took it and threw at my face. - Oh, my.
She threw it at me.
That sounds like a scene from the movies.
Your mom is very cool.
- Right. - I gave all my money to my mom as well.
I got anxious whenever she looked at me...
as we were walking, and I'd say, "Why?"
And she'd reply, "I'm just grateful."
"Why are you grateful? What did you do?"
"Nothing." There are times like this when you get nervous.
"I'll be off now."
(Beeping sound from the key)
She has a personal driver as well.
(Mothers always feel grateful towards their sons.)
All right. Are there actions...
that are taboo even between couples in different cultures?
We try not to talk about our physical looks with each other.
If the person has a pimple here,
this person would also know that he has a pimple here, right?
- They can see it. - Should you pop it for that person?
We can all see it, but we pretend not to notice.
I was shocked when I came to Korea.
They'd go, "What is this?"
- "What is this?" - "Hold on."
The person wanted to pop it for him.
I know I have a pimple here as well.
So, you don't need to put it out. Also, they point it out.
Also they ask,
"Why do you have a pimple?"
"Did it happen because you're tired?"
- "Is it because of stress?" - He's a good actor.
I said, "I don't know. It just happens."
We never comment on their physical appearances.
Everyone can see it, but we don't mention. However a negative aspect of this is,
sometimes we do need to talk about it, right?
But it can be a negative aspect that we don't talk about it.
Are you talking about when your zipper is open?
Let's say your zipper is open,
In Korea, you'd say, "Aurélien, your zipper is..."
(Aurélien, your zipper... I shouldn't mention it.)
I want to help him out,
- but... - What are you doing?
- We worry that he might get flustered. - Okay.
He could misunderstand, even though you were only trying to help.
We'd like to tell him, but we don't because we worry how he'd take it.
- You can tell him indirectly. - We have a phrase for this situation in Japan.
- What do you say? - We say, "The window to the world."
- The window to the world? - We say,
- "The window to the world is open." - We say Namdaemun Gate is open, right?
In Pakistan,
we say the post office is open.
Did you say post office?
- I don't know why we say it. - Is it because of a letter?
Post office.
If they have it wide open, what do you say? You need to say something, right?
Everyone would be...
(Should we say something?)
They could hesitate to tell the person for several hours.
Until he goes home.
- That person wouldn't know. - You'd probably notice after you get home.
(Screaming)
You'd look and wonder if you had wandered around like that all day.
That's what happens.
The person would feel sad because it would feel like no one cared.
- They could have just told him. - Exactly.
If people don't tell the person,
- they might be ridiculed by someone else. - That's the negative side to this.
A taboo we have between couples is...
we don't call another person's mother or younger sibling beautiful.
If you say that, it might get you into a lot of trouble.
We don't say to our friend, "You're younger sister is beautiful."
"Your girlfriend is very pretty."
- That could start a fight. - Really?
- It's normal in Korea. - Exactly.
It's normal in Korea, right?
"Your wife is very beautiful."
They might see it as threatening.
- Right. - How do you greet each other in that case?
In Korea you'd say, "Oh, thank you."
If you said "You're beautiful" in Italy, they could see you as a threat.
It would make me feel mad. We'd think, "You're saying that in front of me?"
- Right. - If you want to say she is beautiful,
you'd have to say it when I'm not around.
- It'd be infuriating if you said it in front of me. - Right.
It's similar in Pakistan, if you said that a younger sister or someone's wife,
or girlfriend was pretty, they'd get angry.
So, recently, people have started to make this comment when they take the army test.
"I'd like to have dinner with your younger sister. What do you say?"
"Can I ask her out?" They ask this.
They ask these questions to see how angry they'd get.
Whether they can control their anger.
This is something that people commonly do in Korea and Italy.
For example, a girl has a boyfriend,
and they go to the boyfriend's home.
The dad suddenly remarks how much his shoulders hurt.
The girlfriend would go to the father and loosen his shoulder, right?
If you did this in Mexico, it could cause a big misunderstanding. You can't do it.
- Right now... - You have to be careful.
I guess "Telenovela" didn't just appear out of nowhere.
The mother could become infuriated by that.
- You have to be very careful. - It has very far-reaching implications.
- Right. - That is amazing.
There is a question that you shouldn't ask...
- when you're getting to know a girl before you're dating. - What is it?
"What do you want to do today?"
You should never ask that.
I'm sure there is something that the girl wants to do,
but when the guy asks that question,
they feel like the guy didn't prepare.
It sounds like he hadn't thought about spending time with her.
- That's harsh. - "There are so many things that I want to do."
- "But I want to do something that you want to do." - You can say it like that.
"I want to do this, but what would you like to do?" That is fine.
If you just say, "What do you want to do?"
"What do you want to do?"
It's something we wouldn't say in Korea, either.
(That's a taboo in Korea as well.)
"What do you want to do? What are you going to do?"
"What are you going to eat? What will you eat?"
"What are you trying to be?"
You wouldn't ask like that, but that is the foreboding feeling you'd receive.
We understand what you're trying to say.
Are there any issues that are still a taboo and have not been opened?
Regarding corruption,
there was a controversial issue.
It concerns the Tsukiji Fish Market.
Tsukiji Fish Market is a seafood market.
(This fish market has been around for 400 years since the Edo period.)
(Almost 560 million dollars is spent there each day.)
The facilities have become worn down.
There was discussion about moving it.
- Right. They are trying to move it. - Yes.
They had planned to move the fish market last November.
However, with the election of a new governor,
new information has come to light.
They needed to construct it properly, but it wasn't.
Not only that, the floor of the area in the market...
had no safety procedures put in place.
They found seven times the normal concentration of mercury in the construction site.
They knew all of this,
but all the previous governors had continued with the construction.
- There might have been corruption with the construction. - Right.
The area that they want to move to...
is a contaminated area.
They needed to test it every year.
But they still wanted to move the market to that place.
- All this new information came to light. - Are people trying to uncover this?
Yes, they are investigating this now.
People are trying to dig up more information for the investigators.
For Switzerland, we can't fail to mention the banks, right?
Yes, you'd have to.
It's been revealed that a Swiss bank has been helping rich people avoid taxes.
With a borrowed name account and an unregistered card,
a bank employee communicated with clients using a secret code.
For example, a client would call the bank...
and ask if she could download a song.
What they were asking was whether they could withdraw money.
- That's how they would ask. - That's incredible.
They communicated with each other in code.
Wouldn't that stand out more if you asked that in a bank?
(Wouldn't that stand out more?)
- To the banker... - I'd like to download a song.
- Would it be possible to download a song? - Of course, Sir.
(Who'd ask to download a song in a bank?)
We also have an incident that was like our Pandora's box.
- Have you heard of the Panama Papers? - Of course.
(Panama Papers are leaked documents from the Panamanian law firm, Mossack Fonseca.)
(The papers contain financial information about public officials and famous people.)
(It has become controversial because it shows that they've been evading taxes.)
There are around 500 Indian names on that list.
As you'd expect, there are names of CEOs of large conglomerates.
There were famous actors on that list as well.
Amitabh Bachchan was on the list, and he's an actor loved by all.
His daughter-in-law, Aishwarya Rai who was the 1994 Miss World, was on there, too.
It would have been nice if my name was on that list, too.
(It's a list of the super-rich.)
You want to be on that list.
In Italy, the big problem is child labor.
There are over 340,000 kids who are forced into child labor.
There are a lot of family-run businesses in Italy.
Like restaurants or small companies.
The problem is, some of the places force kids to work early in the morning.
Or they make kids work 10 or 12 hours a day.
There was a bakery that I often went to.
It was 4 or 5am in the morning, and the person selling croissants was 12 or 13.
It is a Grey area.
It is their parent's store so you can't really say anything.
- It is very Grey. - Child labor.
The way we think of this in India is,
if you go to the countryside,
it's normal to see children farming.
That's why there are a lot of big families in the countryside.
The more kids there are, the more the kids can provide.
They think of it very simply like that.
In my home country, during the summer vacation,
students are given a month to help out farming.
There is no such thing as you can't work because you are young.
You go out there and work naturally. I've done it many times as well.
I worked a lot when I was young as well.
But this is different.
I'm talking about forcing them to work early in the morning like a company.
They have to go to school as well, right?
I think this is a little...
Let me lighten the mood with something.
A very famous MC in China said,
"A lot of the younger actors and actresses don't want to learn their lines."
- "They say 1, 2, 3 and 4 instead." - 1, 2, 3 and 4?
"They believe that a dubbing actor will say the lines for them."
We don't know who does this, but we know who doesn't do this.
An actor publicly said that he doesn't do that.
(Because each region has their own language,)
(in many cases, dubbing artists will say the lines again.)
(For many actors venturing into China,)
(this is a helpful way to cross the language barrier.)
They are expressing the emotions with the numbers, right?
- Yes. - In 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.
And 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.
- And 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5? - He's good.
- In 1, 2 and 3. - He's really good.
- And 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. - In 1, 2, 3 and 4.
In 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.
(Trying to be convincing)
It's 1 and 8.
(This might actually work.)
- Was that your password? - It was my password.
It was his password.
It really does work.
- That was fun. - Conveying emotions...
- isn't that easy. - But, they just did it.
- It was 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. - Exactly.
- He memorizes the emotions first. - I'm an emotional person.
Then he says the lines.
- Right, that's... - It's harder.
- Isn't that harder to do? - We just did a fighting scene.
I do feel that they might do this for a scene where it's a long line.
Is there a taboo that you can't do on set?
When I first made my debut,
there was a scene where I was eating.
A senior walked by saying, "If you eat the prop, you'll be unlucky for three years."
- That's a very old saying. - Right. So,
I was deliberating whether I should eat this or not.
I mean having three years bad luck when you're just starting out didn't sound good.
- I was just starting out. - I wouldn't eat it.
I deliberated a lot with myself because of that.
In the past, when we were on set,
- the directors held a lot of sway. - Right.
We weren't allowed to sit in the director's seat.
These days, none of that really matters anymore.
- It's all disappeared now. - What else is there?
I think this is a taboo among actors.
I don't evaluate my colleague's acting.
You must not have been happy with his acting.
- No, not at all. - Were you dying to say something about it?
- No, I mean... - There was something you weren't happy about.
- What about veteran actors? - Even veteran actors don't make comments like that.
They don't say it in front of them. They might say it behind their backs.
- You'd just tell him he's great. - You must've said a lot of things about him.
No, I didn't.
(He caused a fight.)
In the past, the more experienced actors had more sway,
as did the directors.
"I'll do it like this, so I want you to do this."
"When I go out this way, step aside." There were things like that.
- We have something similar among comedians. - Right.
We do have something similar.
The younger comedians can't cross their legs.
Right. That made no sense.
There were rules like that.
Younger comedians weren't allowed to read the paper.
There was a massage chair that one of our seniors had bought.
- I remember that. - Younger comedians weren't allowed to sit on that.
When Hwang Hyun-hee was a new comedian,
he had his legs crossed and reading a newspaper while sitting on the massage chair.
(He was caught doing the taboo actions that a young comedian wasn't allowed to do.)
He did all three?
I'm there is a restricted area in each country that is like a Pandora's box, right?
I think it would be fun to talk about the forbidden areas for ordinary citizens.
In California, there is an area in the forest called the Bohemian Grove.
There is a secret society made up of male elites.
It's called the Bohemian Club. Membership is restricted to influential people.
For example, when the atomic bomb was being built,
apparently the plan had been formed inside the club.
Also during the 60s,
Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon were spotted at the club.
Apparently they were discussing who would be the presidential nominee.
They were talking about that.
They have all the secret discussions like that there.
If you hadn't come here, you could have...
With that club... Should I apply?
No.
People like me won't get accepted.
Why not? You're an elite.
The members are presidents or...
CEOs...
- I just asked because it's a possibility. - Okay.
In Mexico, there is a place called Federal Social Readaptation Center No. 1.
It is very famous as a maximum security prison.
There are a lot of rumors about how the people inside live.
For example, they say there are a lot of luxuries in there.
The drug lord Joaquín Guzmán was incarcerated there.
He escaped. Some of the security camera footage was shown to the public.
There was an iPad on a table.
- Really? - You could see it.
Didn't that make a drama about him?
- This is a different drug lord. - It's someone else.
(There are many drug lords.)
There are many drug lords.
- Anyway, - Is it like "Game of Thrones"?
They were rivals.
There is only one way to find out things in there.
You have to commit a crime and get incarcerated.
- Is that so? - I see.
In Switzerland, there is a mountain nicknamed the Murderous Wall.
The mountain is called Eiger.
The north face of the mountain is considered dangerous.
Up to now, 60 people have died trying to climb it.
It's like a wall. As you can see,
- it looks very scary. - That would be perfect.
The mountain is telling you not to climb it.
But you want to climb it, right?
- I don't enjoy climbing. - This is the north face of the Eiger.
There were so many deaths...
that the government has forbidden anyone to climb it.
But four months after that, people were allowed to climb it again.
- I see. - Was it because of the votes?
Yes, however...
It was through the votes. Anyway,
normally the north face of a mountain is more dangerous to climb.
Because there isn't a lot of sunlight, and the weather changes quickly.
There are a lot avalanches and rock slides.
So, there were a lot of reported deaths.
Mark, you told us that you've been to a forbidden area in Korea.
I went in there by mistake.
- By mistake? - Where did you go?
It could be a crime.
I was using Google maps...
to explore the neighborhood.
Deep in the forest,
there was a very strange building standing in the middle.
It was in the forest. It looked very strange.
I searched for it using a Korean search engine, but I couldn't find it.
It was nothing but forests.
I was curious, and I wanted to know what it was.
So I decided to go there with my friend on his motorbike.
I got to the front of the building.
And then suddenly soldiers started to appear.
They said, "You can't come in here." We were so afraid that we ran away.
- What? - We later found out that it was a National Intelligence Service building.
- So... - You seem to open Pandora's box often.
- True. - I didn't even know where the National Intelligence Service was.
- You went there. - Right.
- Freedom of information. - Freedom of information.
As I'm sure all of you know with Japan, it's the Fukushima power plant.
When the accident happened,
the area was restricted to a radius of 20km.
But now depending on the contaminated area,
in some areas you can get in,
and even though it's 20km away, there are some places that are restricted.
There are some voices that are saying...
that the government is not releasing as much information as we'd like to know.
It's been five years since the accident,
and the number of articles regarding the issue is decreasing.
So it's slowly getting forgotten.
As the Japanese representative, tell us your honest opinion.
It's still not under control, is it?
No, because...
radiation itself...
- doesn't disappear easily. - Right.
Also, it flows.
- Yes. - It circulates. Even if they blocked the power plant,
there is radiation that has already been leaked. We don't know where it's heading.
So I think we should prepare various measures to deal with the issue.
I see.
A while ago, an earthquake occurred in the southern region of Korea.
We're not safe from earthquake anymore.
We thought we'd be safe from the earthquake...
and thought it's something that happens in Japan.
We've been preparing...
for earthquakes with a magnitude of 6.5 or less.
If an earthquake stronger than that strikes us,
even if we have the perfect control tower,
we would never be able to deal with a nuclear power plant accident.
It's something we won't be able to deal with.
Actually, I was more concerned with the power plants in China.
In the southeastern region of China,
many nuclear power plants are clustered close together.
Right.
Even the weather in Korea gets influenced by the climate in China.
So the thought of nuclear power plant accident in China scared me.
- Those plants are built by the ocean. - It's the same for Germany and Switzerland.
- There are old nuclear power plants in France. - Right.
So the German and Swiss governments...
have been asking us to close it down.
But it's still operating.
- We haven't decided yet. - It's not easy.
German government decided to shut down all nuclear power plants before 2020.
But some say those plants are not likely to be shut down...
- before 2020. - It's not easy.
I know it's not.
So far, we're the most successful country in reducing the number of power plants.
There's none in Italy.
- What? - We don't have nuclear power plants.
- In Italy? - I see.
- That's great. - Italy can still be affected by other countries.
- Poland was the most affected country... - Right.
by the Chernobyl disaster.
We couldn't have babies for three years.
Italy is also very concerned with the power plants in France.
Power plants in France?
It's not something that's prohibited,
but you have to keep this rule in Switzerland.
Since the cold war broke out in 1960s,
we were required to build nuclear shelters in our home.
- Nuclear shelters? - There are underground nuclear shelters...
for apartments as well.
In Switzerland, there are about 300,000 private nuclear shelters.
There are about 5,000 public fallout shelters as well.
That means 113 percent of Swiss population can be accommodated in these facilities.
I heard nuclear missiles were to target the enemy country's capital city.
Now, they're targeting nuclear power plants.
- Right. - Yes.
- It's scary. - Right.
I'm sure there are taboos that have been developed recently in each country.
- Due to its social and cultural background. - Yes.
I'm sure there are taboos that have been developed recently in each country.
- Due to its social and cultural background. - Yes.
Now there are more taboo subjects for teachers in Japan.
The teachers now can't punish the students.
This issue was made into a drama in 2008.
There's a term called Monster Parents.
The term refers to overprotective parents, and the number of them has increased.
So teachers can't punish the students now.
If the teacher calls the student and taps on his shoulder like this,
it's considered as a punishment.
The parents would make complaints to the school.
- He's a good actor. - They'd say,
"My kid was punished by the teacher. What will you do about it?"
Cases like that have increased in Japan.
- Teachers used to have authority in the past, - It's very similar to Korea.
but now they can't do anything.
As a means of sanctioning North Korea,
the Swiss government banned the export of luxury items to North Korea.
Kim Jong-un, who is my senior...
(The alumnus is telling us the North Korean news.)
- Really? - Goodness.
He used to give luxury watches to the officials...
to gain their loyalty.
Now, Swiss government bans the export of luxury watches to North Korea.
Also, North Korea has built a ski resort recently.
They asked...
a Swiss company to sell ski lifts to them.
They thought the money they earn in the resort...
could be used to produce nuclear weapons.
So the company refused to sell it.
I see.
Let's talk about our own taboos.
As for me, I really hate...
when someone points out things when I'm driving.
I can't stand it.
- That's unexpected. - So if I'm with my dad,
- I don't drive. - Why?
He taught me how to drive.
So he keeps pointing out things.
But Alberto is a really good driver.
He'd say things like, "Turn right and take the shortcut."
"Don't overtake now. Slow down a bit."
He'd say things like these.
I've sat in the passenger seat once when Alberto was driving.
We were going to Seoul Arts Center from Daechi-dong.
- We arrived 10 minutes earlier than the navigation predicted. - Is it a good thing?
He's a good driver. He was very skilled, and I felt safe. I loved it.
He didn't drive slowly, either.
(If you lie, you'll be accused of perjury.)
He said he felt safe.
- He's Alberto's official driver. - He didn't race.
- He really focused on the driving. - He must've really liked it.
I want to be a taxi driver later.
When people see me for the first time,
they ask me if I'm married or have a girlfriend.
I don't think you should ask people about that.
I think it's people's privacy.
Koreans casually ask if I have a girlfriend as well.
- We'd ask, "Are you seeing someone?" - Yes.
When I say I'm not seeing anyone,
they'd go, "Why aren't you seeing anyone?"
That's true.
It can be embarrassing.
- Yes. - We also ask, "Why do you have pimples on your face?"
You can avoid the question by saying this.
What is it?
You can say, "I'm seeing many people."
(He's an Italian man without a doubt.)
That's a great answer.
They might ask why you're seeing many people.
- They'll know I'm joking and won't ask any more questions. - Right.
I've been praying since I was seven years old.
- So praying is a crucial part of my life. - I see.
- Every day? - If I don't pray for a day when I'm busy,
it feels like somethings goes out of my body.
When you pray, do you pray towards the Mecca?
- That's right. - But how do you know where the Mecca is?
There's an application for that.
Is there an application for that?
I don't know if you can call it an application.
My grandmother is a fisherwoman.
So she's been sending fish since I was young.
I'm like my mother, so I enjoy eating fish.
Every time she got fish, she cooked them all for me.
My mom would say, "I'm old, so what's the use of eating fish?"
So when I was an elementary student, I told my mom...
that it's too much hassle to eat crabs, and I don't like them.
Since then,
I've never eaten crabs in front of my mother.
My mom thinks I don't like them.
- Don't you like eating crabs? - I love eating crabs.
I even order in crabs often.
- You wanted your mom to eat crabs. - How kind of you.
- How kind of him. - Mom said she doesn't like crabs
(Eat crabs with your mom before the crab season passes.)
Do you have your own taboos as well? Is there anything?
- How about a jinx? - Jinx...
For example,
Do you have your own taboos as well? Is there anything?
- How about a jinx? - Jinx...
For example, if there's an important scene I have to shoot on a certain day,
- I tend to choose my underwear carefully. - What?
- I... - An important scene?
- What kind of underwear do you wear? - I tend to wear a dark-colored one.
Dark blue or black...
- or... - Did you say Dark blue?
- You're... - I haven't heard that word in a while.
Our mothers use that word.
It's been a while since I heard that word.
(Laughing)
"You know the dark blue jacket."
- What should I call it then? - It's navy.
- Navy. - Yes.
You sounded like an old man.
- You wear a dark-colored underwear. - Yes.
- Also, it has to be really tight. - Boxer briefs?
It shouldn't move. It has to be really tight.
- It has to be really tight around my thighs and... - Is that right?
Yes, it has to be tight.
(Dropping his head)
- I just sputtered. - He wears boxer briefs.
It feels comfortable.
I see.
- Jeong-hee. - What should we talk about now?
Why am I embarrassed of him?
When I was young,
I had so many taboos of my own.
I defined certain things were bad...
when I was young.
But as I got older, those things disappeared....
- or faded. I think that has happened a lot. - Right.
- So... - You become indifferent.
I've reached an age where I can do whatever I want.
- Then what does that make me? - That means you're still young.
Right. He's actually a lot younger than me.
Listening to him today made me realize he's becoming an old man.
I was really shocked when you talked about the dark blue color.
All right.
It was Jeong-hee and Nam-gil's issue for the 128th Non Summit Meeting.
"I'm curious to open what should remain closed. Am I abnormal?"
Whether the truth hidden in the Pandora's box is...
a piece of hope of disaster, if there's the slightest suspicion,
we have to open the box and see the truth.
It was today's "Anchor Briefing".
(It was today's "Anchor Briefing".)
That was great.
We will wrap up the show by saying "open sesame", the chant that will open the box.
Let's hear this in each country's language.
I don't know why they say the word "sesame".
You run a sesame business, don't you?
I don't get it.
Sell sesame.
- Buy sesame. - Oh, that's right.
One, two, three.
- We say, "Open sesame." - Open sesame.
- The three of us will say it together. - Okay.
How about Germany?
China?
- Japan? - Japan?
- All right. - All right.
Please say, "Open sesame."
- Open sesame. - Open sesame.
(Sesame)
How did you feel today?
I never expected they'd be so passionate.
Everyone was very passionate.
I had a lot more fun than when I watched it at home.
Thank you so much.
I'm a huge fan, so I watch the show often.
Today, I was able to learn about each country's taboos.
Some of the cultures are the same, and we had different opinions...
and perspectives on such cultures. I really enjoyed being here.
Also, Se-yoon's acting is just...
(Thumbs-up)
- It's embarrassing. - You're a great actor.
Please adjourn the meeting by saying "1, 2, 3, 4, 5".
Okay.
I would now like to adjourn our Non Summit Meeting.
Until the day we all become normal.
I think we'll be all singing this song when Pandora's box opens.
What is happening on this great day
One, two, three, four, five.
(We'll adjourn the meeting. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.)
(The single R&B fairy, Lena Park)
(The lonesome lives of singles)
(I drink...)
(and sing alone at home.)
(Is living alone more comfortable?)
(Eating alone is really convenient.)
(They look lonely.)
(A modern trend versus a life you want to hide)
(Each country's single life culture)
(Ta-da.)
(Life hacks for singles)
(Even the single fairy gives them a present.)
(You won't feel lonely on Monday nights.)
(Non Summit Meeting)
("Forbidden Kyung-ho" by Yoo Se-yoon)
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